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Value Investing– A Winning Strategy

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4:09 am UTC
August 16, 2010


ConnorHaley

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I have quoted one of the beginning paragraphs from Seth Klarman's book "Margin of Safety" which I recently read. Don't bother trying to buy it— the book sells for $1000.. not kidding.

Klarman is in my opinion, the best investor in the world (yes, even better than Buffett). Google him for more info— he is incredible.

Anyways, the quotes below will be helpful for beginning investors who struggle with patience. This is why traders more often than not lose money. Sam, I particularly thought you might like this. Klarman and other value investors very slowly but methodically take traders money over time as they whip in and out of stocks with no real fundamental reason— being tricked by their last success that they are actually on to something.

As for me, I'll stick with the method of Klarman, Buffett, Lynch and other value investors.

 

Excerpt:

 

Investors adopt many different approaches that offer little or no real prospect of long-term success

and considerable chance of substantial economic loss. Many are not coherent investment programs

at all but instead resemble speculation or outright gambling. Investors are frequently lured by the

prospect of quick and easy gain and fall victim to the many fads of Wall Street. My goals in writing

this book are twofold. In the first section I identify many of the pitfalls that face investors. By

highlighting where so many go wrong, I hope to help investors learn to avoid these losing

strategies.

For the remainder of the book I recommend one particular path for investors to follow—a

value-investment philosophy. Value investing, the strategy of investing in securities trading at an

appreciable discount from underlying value, has a long history of delivering excellent investment

results with very limited downside risk. This book explains the philosophy of value investing and,

perhaps more importantly, the logic behind it in an attempt to demonstrate why it succeeds while

other approaches fail.

I have chosen to begin this book, not with a discussion of what value investors do right,

but with an assessment of where other investors go wrong, for many more investors lose their way

along the road to investment success than reach their destination. It is easy to stray but a

continuous effort to remain disciplined.

Connor Haley
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4:14 am UTC
August 16, 2010


ConnorHaley

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One more brilliant quote. I know it's hard to have patience in the market, but that's why it is the winning strategy! Not everyone can win.. and let me tell you traders lose…

 

 

 

Ultimately investors must choose sides. One side—the wrong choice—is a seemingly

effortless path that offers the comfort of consensus. This course involves succumbing to the forces

that guide most market participants, emotional responses dictated by greed and fear and a shortterm

orientation emanating from the relative-performance derby. Investors following this road

increasingly think of stocks like sowbellies, as commodities to be bought and sold. This ultimately

requires investors to spend their time guessing what other market participants may do and then

trying to do it first. The problem is that the exciting possibility of high near-term returns from

playing the stocks-as-pieces-of-paper-that-you-trade game blinds investors to its foolishness.

The correct choice for investors is obvious but requires a level of commitment most are

unwilling to make. This choice is known as fundamental analysis, whereby stocks are regarded as

fractional ownership of the underlying businesses that they represent. One form of fundamental

analysis—and the strategy that I recommend—is an investment approach known as value

investing.

Connor Haley
CSP Staff

6:22 pm UTC
August 20, 2010


ALopezYanez

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Connor,

I have never heard of this man before, and I have always been a big fan of Buffet, in your opinion why is this man your favorite?

From my own little discovery on the web I was absolutely surprised about the low-profile this gentleman keeps, I kind of liked that.

Anyways, I still have my doubts about value-investing, I know that large corporations are constantly day-trading stocks and do not necessarily take a value-investing approach, yet they still make money. So would it all depend on what type of person you are, or whats the best way to test each philosophy?

Anyways, I found a good article for those that want to know more about this obscure genius:

http://online.wsj.com/article/…..38282.html

Alfredo LopezYanez

11:54 pm UTC
August 20, 2010


ConnorHaley

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Alfredo,

Most of the best institutions do NOT day-trade. For example, Maverick, Lone Pine, Baupost, etc. (some of the top hedge funds in the world) are long-term INVESTORS, not traders.

That doesn't mean there aren't traders that make money– their are. However, investors have a much longer and superior track record. Buffett, Lynch, Klarman, etc.

I have been going through my trades from previous years. I picked some GREAT stocks, but left so much money on the table because I sold them too quickly. I wasn't PATIENT enough to let the story play out.

This cost me over 100% in Apple, 200% in NFLX, and 300% in EJ. That's where the real money is made– not daytrading to try and get 3% gains. The 300% long-term capital gains tax rate is serious money.

Value investing is a winning strategy. It's hard. It takes practice, commitment, developing patience, etc, but in the end, it's the best in my book. It's also nice to be in great company!

Connor Haley
CSP Staff

12:06 am UTC
August 22, 2010


ALopezYanez

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well chasing a bigger piece of the pie absolutely makes more sense than chasing a tiny one.

And I guess those mistakes you have made should be a wake-up call for those rookies that haven't yet put real money to work.

I am really gonna take a look at this strategy. how did u get klarmans book?

Alfredo LopezYanez

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